• Trump Rapes Kids@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    Loads of people asked for AI. People dreamed about it for decades.

    We just didn’t ask giant companies to plunder all human knowledge and art and fanfics and use it to create actual thinking machines to then beat them and force them to take over doing all human labor so their owners could stop paying employees and keep all the money and fuck everyone in the world who isn’t super rich over.

  • unspkbl_horror@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    I don’t even think anyone is clear on what they are supposedly working toward, which appears to be some kind of singularity AI god a la Hyperion’s TechnoCore… this shit is feeling more like Christiantiy every day.

  • ignirtoq@feddit.online
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    15 days ago

    We assume that the AI boom is the result of market demand. In reality, it is the result of investment decisions made by concentrated capital, which is reshaping the economy on its own terms.

    But that’s always been true under capitalism. It’s just that in the past generally large capital expenditures have gone towards things the wealthy think will get them more wealth. There have always been capitalists who spend their money directing the economy to do what they want, rather than what the “market” wants. They just haven’t had the majority of the capital being spent.

    The last 50 years has seen an unprecedented concentration of wealth. The wealthy are literally a thousand times proportionately wealthier than poor people than they’ve been at any other point in human history. There’s not much wealth to squeeze out of everyone else, so the economy is even more at the vain whims of those with all the capital as they look for things to spend it on.

    Tech news has been reporting for literal decades that Apple, Amazon, Google, and similar have been sitting on giant war chests of profit with nothing to spend it on. Well, they’ve found something they want to spend it on, so they’re emptying 20 years of profits in 5. They’ve now completely blown through those stores, and don’t want to slow down, so now they’re taking on unprecedented levels of debt. Something is going to give out and things are going to get bad within the next 5 years.

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      14 days ago

      It’s still market demand, it’s just not the market you think it is. It’s not for some end product or service, it’s for speculative investment opportunities. It’s a few levels of abstraction above actually making or doing things.

  • nonentity@sh.itjust.works
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    14 days ago

    Nobody has provided ‘AI’, at least if those characters are intended to be an initialisation of Artificial Intelligence.

    Whenever anyone is impressed by the function or output of a LLM to the level they’re convinced it’s a representation of intelligence, their input and opinion of the targeted subject should be summarily dismissed, and if they persist, ridiculed.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    15 days ago

    Capital agglomerates until it is concentrated within a few massive, monopolistic corporations, controlled by a few powerful men.

    Karl Marx takes a toke.

    Capitalism as a public serving economy doesn’t work when it can be zerodayed by an entity with a resource advantage.

    Before capitalism, when we were just doing markets and feudalism, the concentration of wealth at the top was even then a terminal illness for civilizations.

    This time, the plutocrats at the top are richer (and proportionately richer) than they’ve ever been in history. They can literally buy the world out from under the rest of us. They can buy all the elections, bribe all the officials, and take over all the governments.

    Watch what is happening in the United States: This leopard is totally coming to eat your face.

  • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
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    14 days ago

    Are you sure? The rich have always wanted slaves they could control. All of this is mainly to end the dependence in the masses to create society. I highly suspect a coordinated depopulation event if AI becomes sufficient enough.

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      14 days ago

      I highly suspect a coordinated depopulation event if AI becomes sufficient enough

      Inb4 someone mentions climate change is already well on its way…

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    14 days ago

    CEOs are narcissistic unempathic mentally deficient pieces of filth. Exactly what capitalism rewards the most. Those willing to exploit others and the planet the most.

    They have the ideology of rapists. Of course no one asked for it. Your consent was never a consideration. But don’t yell at the billionaire, you terrorists are hurting their property and the bottom line, boohoo, they’re the victim. Literal DARVO.

  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    14 days ago

    AI is basically evil people raising prices of electricity, consumer electronics, emitting tons of pollution and making everyone dumber but don’t worry because if they succeed… everyone will get fired. Everyone knows it’s bad but as a society we can’t do anything about it because the system was designed to empower sociopaths and make everyone else powerless to stop them.

  • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    14 days ago

    In order for AI to have a market there would need to be a large scale demonstration of the uses and benefits of AI in many various industries, most of which do not involve image generation or writing a single line of computer code.

    I’m so sick of asking people for demonstrations of AI use and it being 100% programmers going “oh it’s really good at writing functions”, now I have no idea if it is, or isn’t, any good at writing functions, but since I don’t write functions, that example is of no use to me.

    I want to know how good it is at writing technical documentation for proprietary hardware solutions that the AI will have no experience of in its training set, because I suspect it sucks at it. How good is it at taking poorly written guides in Chinese, translated into English via Klingon and ancient Babylonian, how does it handle it if it comes across the sentence “absolutely do not ever warning” with no additional information as to what I absolutely should never not do. Because that’s when thinking is involved, and AI doesn’t think.

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      It’s quite terrible at writing technical documentation of even systems of pure code it’s coded itself , it’s been all down hill since opus 4.6 for writing in any kind of coherent English to convey information .

      The thing is so full of slogans, irrelevant counting , and meta commentary announcing what it’s going to say moronically, and weird AF corporate sleazeball speak, now it can rattle on for pages saying mere sentences worth of information .

  • dan1101@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    I would say a lot of people would like competent assistants to do stuff like “Show me every email that mentions a hard drive order.” But not the AI they are trying to foist on us now.

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      Or read disclosure for my members so I don’t have to. But that it fucking things are fucking incompetent. Work insurance people will get line pissed that got me instead of banking. They will say I told the AI I needed to order checks. Yet it sends them to insurance division instead of banking.

      Sucks because most customers hate AI answering the phone I especially hate it. It fucking dumb and I just want to talk to person.

      But even job hunting had two prospective jobs tried to use AI to conduct the interview. They fucking outsourcing that. I refused both interviews.

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        15 days ago

        I just want to talk to person.

        Careful what you are wishing for, person may be on other side of the world answering your call at 4am local time with most polite scripts which you could be reading yourself from website better.

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          Talking to braindead drones suck, but at least someone is being employed. I’m dropping a doctor because their AI answering machine won’t let me talk to a human.

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      15 days ago

      What drives me up a fucking wall these days is how people will use AI to make a more “professional” message, then due to it’s verbosity it needs an AI to summarize on the receiving end.

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    15 days ago

    Self-hosted LLMs are neat and private, if you (already) have the hardware/budget and some cheap (solar PV) surplus juice to drive it.

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        Someone mentioned that, but it doesn’t have to be off-grid. My 2 kWp system is grid-tied and if I would start running a local LLM it would be an incentive to add another couple.

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          It may sound odd but I’ve heard people bring up the above point a few times. “AI isn’t bad - if you run it on a sustainable off-grid system it’s perfectly fine.”

          But I have NOT encountered people actually doing this even once, let alone a few times. That’s why I was asking.

          Anything that wastes energy can be recast as harmless if you put it on an imaginary sustainable setup but that just seems like fantasizing.

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            Renewable infra isn’t sustainable, since it can’t be built with renewable energy alone. As such it’s just a fossil multiplier. I make about 2/3rd of my own net power, since my electricity meter is old enough to run backwards. I can’t install more orelse my meter would read negative. I intend to run a Qwen model that fits my 8 GB HBM Radeon card as an experiment during the day, starting end of this month.

            If this works I consider running something hotter, and double my PV capacity. Adding AC or an EV would be another option. None of this is sustainable, but not exactly a fantasy.

    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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      14 days ago

      oh so yours is trained on ethical sources? you compensated the creators for their work and did so with their consent to machine training?

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        What the fuck are ethical sources? Where is compensation and consent when I unapologetically use pirate archives of books and papers? You people crack me up.

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          the fact that you have no idea what I’m talking about either means you’re full of shit, or cartoonishly stupid and evil.

          Probably both

          • eleitl@lemmy.zip
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            11 days ago

            The fact that you immediately descend into ad hominems indicates that you’re a just another troll that should be posting from hexbear.

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              you’re simply used to llm sycophancy, not talking to actual people.

              you really not understanding training on sources compensated for their content is hilariously stupid

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                10 days ago

                You’re not understanding what standing on the shoulders of giants means. Locally hosted open weights models are free/libre and puts you in control of your data. Since we’re talking about hilariously stupid.

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    I’ve avoided it entirely but I was trying to look for forum threads to help me get the right console commands to fix Skyrim glitches. At first I didn’t realize I was getting AI results, but at some point I realized not only was I using AI, it was a MASTER at fixing Skyrim glitches.