• Kichae@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    So, “no” then? Your answer is “no”. Being a cranky fuckwad in your non-answer doesn’t make it noy a non-answer.

    What is your better idea for combating climate change? Because, from what I’ve seen, critics of the carbon tax are acting in bad faith even if they believe it’s ineffectual, because they all choose to ignore the associated rebate, while also refusing to address climate change in any way.

    So, what’s your better plan?

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      8 months ago

      my answer was clearly yes. The Liberals don’t even believe in this plan, it only applies in 3 or 4 provinces. As for a plan, mine is not raping people for tax money in a country that isn’t the fucking problem anyways.

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        8 months ago

        Every province have a carbon pricing model, how did you miss that?

        Provinces had the option to build their own system, or use one provided by the feds.

        Judging from your other comments you have some very large fundamental misunderstandings of how the system works. I think you need to take a good hard look at where you’ve been getting your information, someone is lying to you and you’re falling for it.

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          8 months ago

          You have literally no idea. I hear this all the time, almost like there’s been a disinformation campaign of some sort.

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            8 months ago

            You hear it all the time because it’s how the system works.

            This page has more details that will be useful for you:

            https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/climate-change/pricing-pollution-how-it-will-work.html

            There are also links at the bottom of the page to more details.

            If you don’t trust it because it’s a Canada.ca address, then I think your best bet is to go read the actual bill, I’m not going to find that for you, but you’re going to have to but in some effort, you’ve been mislead (which is fine it happens) but then you’ve decided to start spreading that same misinformation, that isn’t ok. It isn’t that hard to be an informed citizen today, but a big part of that is not trusting everything you hear on the news.

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              8 months ago

              Yes yes, i’ve been mislead, surely, it can’t be that i actually pay the tax and a bunch of people who rent or whatever keep saying “nuh uh”. Entire provinces are pissed for no reason at all.

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                8 months ago

                … Did you read what I posted?

                Yes there is a carbon pricing program, that was never up for debate. I pay it too (and get more back than I pay in).

                And yes portions of provinces have been mislead because they seem to have no ability to actually validate what they hear on the news. You’re a perfect example of that. You’re clearly really angry, but the things you’re angry about aren’t actually true.

                I’m assuming you’ve heard things said by the media, or conservative polititions and you just accepted it as fact and it made you angry. Which was their plan. The whole conservative strategy these days is to mislead their base, create division and make people angry. They don’t have any substantial solutions for anything, but that’s also ok because their base have been trained to not question anything they hear.

                I highly highly encourage you question everything you hear in the media. Official sources (like canada.ca) are trustworthy, but you can also go even deeper and find actual bills. You can work yourself out of the hole you’re in, it’ll just take time, and you’ll have to put in effort. I the current conservative controlled media landscape it takes constant effort to get real facts about things.