• CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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    4 hours ago

    In civilized countries “self defense” means you might have to punch someone. “You should have an easy way to kill someone on you at all times, and keep it hidden so they don’t know” is not self defense, but clear signs of a dystopia.

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      2 hours ago

      In civilized countries “self defense” means you might have to punch someone.

      My back is fucked and have an 80% rating from the VA. I’m not getting into fist fights anymore.

      If someone gets blown away stealing shit, the world has become a better place, frankly.

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        2 hours ago

        “Property is more valuable than human lives.”
        A statement from a person in a developed country apparently…

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          1 hour ago

          “The strong should be allowed to do whatever they want to the weak” A statement from a person in a developed country apparently…

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              14 minutes ago

              Uh, no. There are quite a lot of laws governing when deadly force is allowed which vary by country and state. I’m quite sure none of them allow it when someone “bothers you”.

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                4 minutes ago

                There’s also laws governing what constitutes theft. Your entire argument about needing a gun is dependent on people not following the law.

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                  48 seconds ago

                  Yeah the people stealing shit are… different people and not me?

                  What is your point?

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              35 minutes ago

              And without one, the stronger will always prevail over the weak. I can’t believe I need to spell this out.

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                32 minutes ago

                Who is “the stronger” in a situation where you have a gun and someone else does not?

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                  29 minutes ago

                  Me.

                  And my wife, and daughter. People that, without the use of arms, will always be the weaker given it’s usually men who commit these crimes.

                  You’re missing the point - this tool takes physical strength out of the equation for self defense purposes and you’re acting like it’s a bad thing.

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                    28 minutes ago

                    Ah, so what you mean is that it’s okay for the strong to take advantage of the weak when you’re the strong one.