• brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I just don’t get what AI is doing in this context. Build normal fucking algorithms.

    I saw that the average savings was 10 minutes and $375 a flight. For a system that cost $1billion. It won’t pay itself off until 2.6 MILLION flights have completed.

    What a farce.

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    I hope other governments sue the fuck out of the states for causing business delays by beta testing live ai stuff. I read Australia lost a lot.

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    Answer: No.

    Duffy literally said what happened.

    They tried to run a totally new ‘SMART’ software system on hardware that he said they already knew couldn’t handle it.

    Said hardware… then… didn’t handle it.

    It then got overloaded to the point that the SMART system was disagreeing, de-sync’d with the correctly functioning legacy ATC systems, such as TRACOM.

    Then they panicked and shut down everything, and up untill the press conference*, were issuing vague and nearly meaningless statements because almost no one in charge even understands the vocabulary used to describe components of the systems they are in charge of.

    *(DHS Head MarkWayne Mullet was continuing to say nonsensical gibberish during the press conference.)

    Ta da! That’s it, it’s that simple, we have incompetent idiot assholes in charge, they did incompotent idiot asshole things.

    Now it’s apparently Biden and/or Congress and or the American people’s fault that Sean Duffy does not, right this moment, have $40 more billion dollars to finish installing this… checks notes … cost saving new system.

    This is a Dilbert strip plot happening in real life.

    This is essentially terrorism/cybercrime/extortion -> we will continue to install and use the system that we know does not work and crashes, untill we recieve $40 billion, which we pinky promise we will use to make the system crash less, maybe, probably… because that is how you save money.

    “The current ground stop is not based on or a result of the SMART system, any product of ASI or our integration with FAA and ATC,” the company wrote in a statement.

    This is a lie, a knowingly false or misleading statement.

    “We have no indication that the FAA’s nationwide ground stop is related to any Microsoft services,” [Microsoft] wrote.

    This is most likely true.

    I doubt that ASI’s SMART system was using Outlook/365 to email all of its internal network traffic to itself. That isn’t strictly impossible, but it’s almost certainly not the case.

    You see, Microsoft has their own LLMs, writing their own shitty code, that crashes in its own shitty way.

    They recently laid off 1/4 of their staff to continue to be able to afford using their LLMs. Which they also know writes shitty code that blows up regularly.

    As a side note:

    https://www.asi.com/

    Looks like the MAGA crime syndicate front known as ASI has a whole page dedicated to energy infrastructure.

    So, get ready for this to happen with the power grid as well.

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      9 minutes ago

      Imagine though, the system trying to send out flight cancellation and rebooking emails to all these passengers - passengers not getting them and being completely in the dark about what to do and where to go because email was out on the same day as a nationwide ground stop…

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        That… lol, is true and probably happened to some extent.

        But yeah those would be the airline’s email servers/systems, which fucking hopefullly are not directly, fully two way integrated into the goddamn ATC systems.

        I have to say hopefully at this point because … that would be insanely stupid to do… but we also have insanely stupid idiots running seemingly everything these days.

        You’d think it would just be the airline servers/systems just basically get a read only kind of notifcation from the airport sending out somekind of info update, and then the airline systems do their own thing…

        But they’re always making better idiots.

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      So, get ready for this to happen with the power grid as well.

      if there was every a time to get solar…it was 10 years ago before trump destroyed the rebate system for installing solar.

      now your only choice is a 7-10kw generator. hope you don’t mind the price of fuel 🫠.

      personally, I have converted my generator over to biofuel. I siphon the gasses from my MAGA corpse pit and power my home from the rotting flesh of my MAGA neighbors as they die of exposure and starvation one by one.

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      They have a company named ASI? The whole industry is hype, knowingly pushing out a rushed product guaranteed to fail at some point to replace working systems. AND it’s built in to always need updating regularly to keep those who buy into it coming back.

      LLMs could have been a useful tool to gradually train properly and grow into some systems slowly. But the money was too enticing, and now there’s no way backwards to fix all the issues and ethical problems. So dumb.

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    4 hours ago

    trump only has a short time to really fuck with the country before the level-headed try to set it right again. Watch for more hijinks and chicanery coming to a local streetcorner near you!

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    10 hours ago

    You are absolutely right, there was another Boeing 737 on that runway. And this is my fault. If you want I can list 10 other big air traffic catastrophies.

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    The AI rollout might be innocent, but deploying a billion dollar system into critical infrastructure days before a nationwide ground stop is spectacularly bad timing.

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      It was absolutely the implementation of slop services in place of well-understood, unbroken, functional technology.

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        Yes but, have you considered we could lay off 75% of the employees if the AI thing works because we should totally run government like a profit driven business?

        (/S)

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          Lol, yeah but we’re at the “if the AI thing works” stage, and it does not

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      They just tested to see how fast they could ground everyone, and how panicked everyone would be and for how long. This is valuable data for martial law soon.

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          I don’t doubt any of these disruptions so close to each other are planned for by malicious intent.

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            911 service was down as well. To many important systems all going down same day? Come coucidents don’t happen that well.

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        Okay I know so many people on Lemmy like to overreact but seriously, that’s so off. We already have that data. It was called 9/11, happened 25 years ago, and they brought the entire country to a stop pretty damn quick. So no, they didn’t need the data as a test run, it already exists.

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      7 hours ago

      Nah, copilot wasn’t involved, but there was some talk about having two Outlook’s and neither working

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      I think so. It always posts anti-AI articles with a comment that follows the same pattern. I noticed a couple days ago they broke that pattern for a few comments, so my guess is it’s a 99% bot account with a person that logs in occasionally to mix it up.

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      Actually, I am 99% sure that this account has identified itself as a bot in the past. I have looked it’s posting history, though, and don’t see any indication of it now.

      Even if it is a bot, it’s a good bot: posting relevant links for the humans to talk about.

      Edited to add: the account’s bio links here, to an actual human, but that human talks a lot about tech and AI, and may operate this bot account.