White Nationalists #nazis showed up in Kamloops today to protest ahead of Truth and Reconciliation Day.

  • Hawanja@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Sure.
    70 years after we fought a war to defeat fascism, it has been resurrected under the guise of American conservative populisim, in no small part because people have forgotten the lesson of WWII.

    I mean, if you’re under the impression that we can somehow defeat fascism for all time then never ever have to worry about it ever again, then you’ll be sadly disappointed. Freedom requires vigilance.

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      4 days ago

      I understand how that’s an appealing narrative that helps you make sense of the world and manage your feelings, and in that sense it is a very good narrative. But it’s not reality. The solution you’re so proud of requires a mass purge every three generations, and you think that’s just the way it has to be. Fully buying in to a narrative built around a cosmic conflict between good and evil FFS is buying in to the whole model of fascism. The ruling class WANTS the slaughter, the boom, the crunch, the conflict, and the next slaughter. Every step in the cycle, they ratchet their power and wealth. It’s not an accident that it keeps happening, and the solution isn’t just to play your role on the other side of the stage. It isn’t naive kids playing nazi who are your enemy, you naive kid playing WWII conscript. Fascism never ever occurs in the absence of wealthy capitalists. Shooting their employees doesn’t fucking solve anything.

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        24 hours ago

        Well I hate to break it to you, but you’ll never truly stamp out fascist ideology permanently for the rest of time. It must be continously fought against. Every generation needs to be educated to oppose it, and when it takes power it needs to be stamped out and destroyed, with violence if necessary.

        It isn’t naive kids playing nazi who are your enemy,

        YES, IT IS. Because “naive kids” grow up to be full fledged fascist adults. I’ll give you an example: 4chan.

        Yes, 4chan is the reason why we have all these nazis running around. But back in 2003 one could actually get banned from 4chan for being racist. Moot used to periodically go through and perge all those assholes because he didn’t want his website turning into a white supremacist hang-out. See all the kids today are too young to remember, but back in the day if you ran a website, or a forum, chatroom, whatever, it was only a matter of time before the nazis and white supremacists showed up. They would congregate at places that had minimal moderation (this is how Club Penguin became overrun with white supremacists.) Then 4chan went with a “containment” policy, to isolate all that shit to /b/ but by 2015 it was too late. The neo-fascist movement, the Groypers, Gamergate, Incels, the Men’s rights assholes, all those people wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for 4chan. That’s where white supremacy took root online and spread like a cancer through everything else.

        Well how did this happen? Because a significant number of the 22 million people who frequent 4chan every month are children. They get to say edgy stuff and act all rebellious, and it’s all fun and games, until it isn’t. Now we’re at a point where white supremacy is so common that leaked group chats for the Young Republicans read like fucking Mien Kampf. I’ve already gone on too long, but I’m pretty sure you get the point I’m making about indoctrination and desensitation.

        So yes, it is very much “kids playing nazi” who are the enemy, and the assholes encouraging them to play even more so.

        The ruling class WANTS the slaughter, the boom, the crunch, the conflict, and the next slaughter.

        Well once you figure out how to stop war forever please let me know, I’ll be the first to listen. But it ain’t by playing nice with fascists.