• Mwa@thelemmy.club
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    19 days ago

    AI would be great if(currently its mixed for me,and whats the best thing you can do ATM ):

    • The Datacenters didnt drain like 3 oceans and half of the power grid(or used solar energy + air cooling only,the only way to solve this is Local LLMs currently or specific AI solutions that isnt ChatGPT or Gemini and so on. )
    • the LLM is not trained on copyrighted data(non-public domain) and not Paying the artists or not ask the original creator to train on their work.(Local LLMS partially solve this,and this requires specific LLMS too.)
    • People did not use AI mindlessly to write Code for you(well i think this requires the user to use their brain)

    and so on…
    and AI should stay as a “TOOL”, not a full replacement for human work like most sane people do.
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    i forgot to mention AI is a big contributer to the AI crisis.

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      The Datacenters didnt drain like 3 oceans and half of the power grid

      Do a little research and look at the actual numbers - yes, it could grow to become a problem, no - AI data centers aren’t anywhere near that kind of problem yet. At the moment, after over a year of hype and growth, AI datacenters use less electricity than Bitcoin miners (which, in my opinion, is too damn much electricity for Bitcoin, but it doesn’t seem to set the news on fire the way AI power usage does.)

      not trained on copyrighted data

      A lot of really good data is copyrighted - there should be some way to cycle that benefit back to the people who made it in the first place. Bernie’s soverign wealth fund idea isn’t a bad one…

      People did not use AI mindlessly

      Good luck with that one.

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        Do a little research. AI power usage isn’t that much of a problem yet.

        Okay.

        https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/pollution-musk-unpermitted-xai-power-100200381.html

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/epa-exempts-off-grid-ai-power-plants-from-acid-rain-program-caps-affecting-60-sites/ar-AA28YctM

        https://www.fastcompany.com/91229319/ai-data-centers-could-make-your-electric-bill-go-up-by-70

        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-power-ai-data-centers-eminent-domain/

        Power usage from AI data centers has already eclipsed power usage from all other data centers combined. If you can come up with a scenario where AI hasn’t doubled in scale by 2030 by belching smoke into the atmosphere, I’ll concede the point.

        A lot of really good data is copyrighted

        Yeah, and that’s too fucking bad. If the people who made it don’t want it to be used for AI training (and I don’t think I’ve ever met a creator who has done the research on AI who does, even if they got paid), it shouldn’t be.

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        Do a little research and look at the actual numbers - yes, it could grow to become a problem, no - AI data centers aren’t anywhere near that kind of problem yet. At the moment, after over a year of hype and growth, AI datacenters use less electricity than Bitcoin miners (which, in my opinion, is too damn much electricity for Bitcoin, but it doesn’t seem to set the news on fire the way AI power usage does.)

        but… but… i saw news about AI causing power grid issues,though i did also hear a power company shut down ai datacenter(s?) to free up electricity used .
        i also forgot to add AI causing the ram crisis thing.

        there should be some way to cycle that benefit back to the people who made it in the first place.

        exactly,also good idea.

        Bernie’s soverign wealth fund idea isn’t a bad one…

        i think its about making people own the AI??

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          Bernie’s soverign wealth fund idea isn’t a bad one…

          i think its about making people own the AI??

          It’s modeled somewhat on the Alaska permanent fund, which is compensating Alaskans with profits from the oil being extracted from their state.

          There are unlimited ways to screw it up, but if AI suddenly becomes ridiculously profitable, having 50% of those profits cycled into the general fund could pay for things like UBI…