• MangoCats@feddit.it
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    17 days ago

    The Datacenters didnt drain like 3 oceans and half of the power grid

    Do a little research and look at the actual numbers - yes, it could grow to become a problem, no - AI data centers aren’t anywhere near that kind of problem yet. At the moment, after over a year of hype and growth, AI datacenters use less electricity than Bitcoin miners (which, in my opinion, is too damn much electricity for Bitcoin, but it doesn’t seem to set the news on fire the way AI power usage does.)

    not trained on copyrighted data

    A lot of really good data is copyrighted - there should be some way to cycle that benefit back to the people who made it in the first place. Bernie’s soverign wealth fund idea isn’t a bad one…

    People did not use AI mindlessly

    Good luck with that one.

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      Do a little research. AI power usage isn’t that much of a problem yet.

      Okay.

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/pollution-musk-unpermitted-xai-power-100200381.html

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/epa-exempts-off-grid-ai-power-plants-from-acid-rain-program-caps-affecting-60-sites/ar-AA28YctM

      https://www.fastcompany.com/91229319/ai-data-centers-could-make-your-electric-bill-go-up-by-70

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-power-ai-data-centers-eminent-domain/

      Power usage from AI data centers has already eclipsed power usage from all other data centers combined. If you can come up with a scenario where AI hasn’t doubled in scale by 2030 by belching smoke into the atmosphere, I’ll concede the point.

      A lot of really good data is copyrighted

      Yeah, and that’s too fucking bad. If the people who made it don’t want it to be used for AI training (and I don’t think I’ve ever met a creator who has done the research on AI who does, even if they got paid), it shouldn’t be.

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      17 days ago

      Do a little research and look at the actual numbers - yes, it could grow to become a problem, no - AI data centers aren’t anywhere near that kind of problem yet. At the moment, after over a year of hype and growth, AI datacenters use less electricity than Bitcoin miners (which, in my opinion, is too damn much electricity for Bitcoin, but it doesn’t seem to set the news on fire the way AI power usage does.)

      but… but… i saw news about AI causing power grid issues,though i did also hear a power company shut down ai datacenter(s?) to free up electricity used .
      i also forgot to add AI causing the ram crisis thing.

      there should be some way to cycle that benefit back to the people who made it in the first place.

      exactly,also good idea.

      Bernie’s soverign wealth fund idea isn’t a bad one…

      i think its about making people own the AI??

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        17 days ago

        Bernie’s soverign wealth fund idea isn’t a bad one…

        i think its about making people own the AI??

        It’s modeled somewhat on the Alaska permanent fund, which is compensating Alaskans with profits from the oil being extracted from their state.

        There are unlimited ways to screw it up, but if AI suddenly becomes ridiculously profitable, having 50% of those profits cycled into the general fund could pay for things like UBI…