Age verification is a great success I see. I feel so much safer now with this shit in place so kids can’t watch porn…
…on major/regulated sites only.
The worst was watching porn on spotify…
*so that the government can say kids won’t watch porn.
Rule 1 of computers that everyone who has taught an ICT class learns - if little Timmy wants titties, he finds a way.
It has absolutely nothing to do with kids watching porn.
Of course.
God forbid people teach their kids sex/getting off is a drug and can be abused.
Who taught you sex is a drug? As long as words mean their definitions, it’s categorically not. Plus it’s probably kinda harmful to pile on the stigma already surrounding sex by conflating it with drugs and all the stigma that comes with that.
Hopefully I’m wrong, but it’s kinda giving a nofap pseudoscience red flag to me.
Parents definitely should be teaching their kids about this stuff at the appropriate time, but they should stick to the facts.
First they came for the sex, then they came after the drugs. Now they’re trying to take my rock and roll
Did you know that rock and roll is actually a plate of spaghetti?
Spaghetti = Carbs = Sugar = Addictive Drug
I mean… it is a rush of dopamine and can become addictive. Same as a videogame or gambling though. Not a drug but can get unhealthy if it leads to maladaptive daily functioning.
Sex on drugs is awesome…
Is being high without the approval of your partner okay?
I guess that depends very much on your partner and the relationship you have together…
In Sweden pretty much anybody has Bank Id, an app which is connected to a bank account and which can function as a valid identification.
App belongs a private company, but it’s still trustworthy and everybody can sign government docs with that.
This is how you should do age verification, through a third party app, not like any site will get your id/picture to just end in their DBs ready to be stolen.
Every government should create an app for the online id, I don’t get why this seems so hard to achieve.
It’s super trustworthy bro I swear
Do you prefer to give your personal id to any site in the world instead of using the same app which you pay your taxes with?
I’d prefer my internet free…
Like other medias before, internet probably has reached a need for some harder control. I’m not talking about porn, I’m talking about disinformation, bots and soon AI.
Not sure which is the best way but I’ll not give any id or credit card to any randim site in order to see their content.
“Disinformation”
Ahhh ok I see now.
So who do you think should be in charge of that?
Who do we make “the good guys” that get to tell me the information I need to see. USA, CCP, Israel, Russia, EU?
Fuck that shit. I don’t trust a god damn one of them and if you do then your opinions on regulating the internet don’t mean shit to me.
The effect is still the same these companies are given access to my personal information because the government wants to monitor our activity online
Don’t threaten, just do it. Enshittification must end.
The only reason we have mainstream paid video streaming now is because early Netflix was genuinely better than dodgy, pop-up riddled mirrors on movie4k.to. The convenience was well worth 8 bucks a month. Same for Spotify.
Fast forward 10 years and Spotify wants me to pay 15 €, scan my face and listen to forced podcast ads AND pay extra for paywalled audiobooks that used to be free? Meet my good old friend youtube-downloader, then.
as an independent artist I just wanna add: the best thing you can do to support artists and bands is to buy directly / on bandcamp. spotify pays shit to artists, you need millions of listeners to get any meaningful amount of cash
of course that isn’t a sustainable option if you listen to a lot of different music. so piracy is an option that I wouldn’t mind. hell, if you like my stuff and just write to me I’ll send you mp3s for free
Don’t forget to tell them to go to the shows!!
Musicians are real people who very often hold live performances in high-population locations, you can see them directly with your eyeballs, hear them directly with your hearholes, and physically hand them actual cash with your flesh and blood hands!
Edit - To the people complaining about ticket company charges: You need to get into your local music scene and the +95% of bands out there who aren’t big enough to play venues that have ticket company contracts. There is a world of music out there completely free of that system and you’re neglecting it.
physically hand them actual cash with your flesh and blood hands!
Most of the time you have to pre book via some website that takes its 30% cut.
music to my ears
Man, I wish I could hand them cold, hard cash. Instead, I gotta pay Ticketmaster to skim off the top first before giving the artist and their team peanuts.
Preferably on Bandcamp Friday
DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE! YOU ARE A PIRATE!
Don’t threaten, just do it!
I don’t get why people are so stubborn to move away from corporate products.
Personally, the open source community’s aversion to algorithms is what’s holding me back. Say what you will about them, but I’ve found many great songs thanks to Spotify’s algo.
I’ve found many juat streaming themed internet radio on Radiodroid.
I was dragging my feet because I really liked the algorithmic features. As much as I hate “AI” being jammed into everything these days, I really liked their DJ feature, and the “crate a playlist from a prompt” was a lot of fun to play with!
My favorite generated playlist was “Determined music for poopwalking home from Taco Bell”
That being said, they’ve been corrupting their music exploration tools with corporate interest for a while, so it’s been becoming less desirable as a result
…funnily enough, it may actually be better for musicians if people left spotify, considering the absolute pennies they pay per stream.
You should already be doing that anyways with the phantom artists scandal, thousands of fake artists made with AI so Spotify doesn’t have to pay real people.
I mean, fuck Spotify and all that, but this one is really the UK government’s doing.
And soon, this shit will come to every country. They’re all drafting laws to mandate real age verification for adult content. The UK is just the first to implement it.
I mean, fuck it. At this point we might as well put our passport numbers in the HTTP headers.
Coming to a pop up near you. If they even bother to ask any more.
I think there are going to be a whole lot of phishing and blackmail scams in the future, preying on the stupid computer illiterate masses putting in their personal information into fake “age verifiers” to access porn or other adult content.
Its not like every industrie can somehow lobby every consumer right away when someone wants to make a new law… oh wait they do…
ah from shady porn sites, like spotify and wikipedia. definitely protect kids from porn there. /s
So I feel like I’m now hearing more successful pushes for censorship through this stuff.
Just last week I learned how Texas has a bill that makes it so if anyone ever invested in green technology that they wouldn’t be allowed
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/24/texas-boycott-companies-fossil-fuels/
I saw a post saying /r/period required an age check.
They’re gonna censor as much as they can with this.
Ah, yes. As we all know, periods start at 18, when you’re a legal adult. It’s illegal to have periods before then
Is wikipedia on the list? I see reddit is, lol. We might see an influx soon.
not yet, but the wikimedia foundation has been fighting against it expecting that it would be a class 1 site and require it.
We have to protect wikipedia
Here’s one way to help: https://kiwix.org/en/about-us/#our-story
Download Wikipedia to your own device. If it’s ever blocked or taken down you still have access and can help share information with others.
You can download different versions (e.g. without images) and different languages based on your needs.
There’s other resources available via kiwix as well but I’ve not really explored them to be honest
You’re way better off with your own music collection. That is what I have. I use Tauon music box it handles large playlists well.
Welcome back 🏴☠️🦜
Let this be a reminder to never turn away from piracy. It needs to constantly be in the background and if any company gets like they always do, then it comes back out. But if we let the knowledge fade away then it’s impossible to rebuild it.
Piracy preserves media.
Piracy preserves art.
Piracy makes sure, that future generations still have access to the creations of humanity.
Data hoarding is a service to the public.
“Keep circulating the tapes!”
I don’t mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That’s just creepy. Fuck off.
It is 1970-01-01 like me, no?
Date of birth (with some other details) is kind of a sensitive information in the right hands
given that governments are now starting to make certain protests illegal, definitely not as bad as having your face in a database and your behaviour being mapped for suspicious illegal activity like criticising genocide.
You’re right and I’d go a bit further: It’s none of their business what your age even is, they need to know only one bit for their legal duties, over or under age of majority.
Basically what is really needed is a certificate of majority digitally signed by the government bound to some identifier, email address or full name. All this uploading faces or ID card scans is ridiculous.
The invasiveness is the point. Age gating explicit content is just the excuse.
Even using a credit card for something like Spotify is already giving out more information than is needed.
How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?
A normal modern bank card (with 2FA) through a payment provider which obfuscates everything besides the name on your bank account and your bank account number (this will also share the country of your bank if you are in a SEPA region). And since people younger than 18 can use that system, they cannot use that for verification.
Plus, you won’t be at risk of spending money you don’t have, and it doesn’t negatively impact your credit score like even having a credit card does in some countries.
He’s saying if you have a credit card to pay there’s no need to verify (I think)
Edit: nah I’m wrong, cheers
I just hate credit cards since they are like the worst payment method unless you want to dig a financial hole for yourself
Only if you’re bad with money. Nothing wrong with credit cards themselves, and most of them these days are credit/debit cards.
Besides that, credit cards (and chipless debit cards) are unsecure? That receiving credit cards payments costs more in terms of administration costs?
That credit cards are a system designed for consumerism (you see this especially in the US) and that people who grew up with credit cards being the default/more common payment method are often worse with money?
There is a reason why you can only own credit cards if you are an adult, but you can own chipped debit cards earlier.
It’s a load of bullshit, for a start the ISP has my details and should be able to attest my connection is rented by someone of legal age and it should be up to me what I let my children (assuming I have any) see and not see on that connection. I already had to click the “yes just give me the porn damn it” agreement on my mobile phone which was less likely to be randomly shared unmonitored and now this overbearing crap. I’ll just avoid sites and services that require this.
Its as if law makers don’t learn from history. Do they not know what happened in the 90s and early 2000s when stores wouldn’t sell M rated video games or CDs with mature content labels? We found ways to get around that. We would go to stores that didn’t check or care, got our older sibling or friend to buy it for us. We burned copies of our friends CDs, or downloaded stuff off line with Limewire and Napster.
Same shit when there was prohibition in the US. People drove cars across the great lakes to bring alcohol into the US. People brewed there own spirits in bathtubs with radiator coils.
If people want to anomalously watch their favorite weird kinky shit or listing to music they like, they’re going to find a way. And, if the easiest way to do that is through piracy, that is what they are going to do.
