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  • Basically installing packages. You’re fine if you default to using

    • flatpaks for gui apps
    • brew for cli programs
    • distrobox when building from source or when you need good control over the package environment (e.g. when installing a latex editor and only the latex packages you want)
    • layer packages on host with “rpm-ostree install” when the program needs tight integration with the host (e.g. VPN software)

    Also, you shouldn’t edit files in /usr, but I’ve never run into that limitation. You can still edit other top-level directorys like /etc .

    That’s about it.






  • From this article, an interview with Fedora’s project leader:

    On the other hand, the long-term distributions work by basically not making changes. Fedora doesn’t follow that, your packages will get updated. We try to make it so that major breaking changes happen on releases rather than just as updates. But sometimes, if there is a security problem, we will put out a newer version of something. So for that kind of stable, it is much less so."

    That’s why Fedora users are stuck with e.g. the older GNOME version until the next release.

    The difference between Fedora and Debian regarding stability is that there’s a new Fedora release every 6 months, while on Debian you have to wait like 2 (?) years for major updates.

    That’s how I always interpreted the term “leading edge”.






  • Thanks for your explanation, that makes sense. Was just curious what your take on this is, since a lot of CEOs made some very irrational decisions in the past like the recent Unity debacle or Reddit killing the community. Sometimes asking “what if” can help understand the situation. Of course with Linux we have all the options in case something bad happens


  • What if Red Hat’s CEO changes and the new one for some reason only wants to keep sponsoring Fedora if the direction drastically changes? The FESCo could decide that the continued sponsorship is what’s most important for Fedora and now Red Hat could dictate over Fedora.

    Hopefully that never happens and it doesn’t seem too probable right now, but it’s still a thought




  • You should definetely check out Bazzite, it’s based on Fedora Atomic and has Steam on the base image. Image and Flatpak updates are applied automatically in the background, no need to wait for the update on next boot. Media codecs and necessary drivers are installed by default.

    The Bazzite image also directly consists of the upstream Fedora Atomic image, just with quality of life changes added and optimized for gaming



  • Noob question?

    Should I’ve made a new post instead?

    You do seem confused though… Debian is both a distribution and a packaging system…

    Yes, Debian is a popular distro depending on Debian packages. My concern is about the update policy of the distro

    But the whole reason debian-based distros exist is because some people think they can strike a better balance between newness and stability.

    Debian is pure stability, not the balance between stability and newness. If you mean debian-BASED in particular, trying to introduce more newness with custom repos, I don’t think that is a good strategy to get balance. The custom additional repos quickly become too outdated as well. Also, the custom repos can’t account for the outdatedness of every single Debian package.

    you seem to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater… the debian packaging system is very robust and is not intrinsically unlikely to be updated.

    Yes, I don’t understand/approve the philosophy around the update policy of Debian. It doesn’t make sense to me for desktop usage. The technology of the package system however is great and apt is very fast