College student put on academic probation for using Grammarly: ‘AI violation’::Marley Stevens, a junior at the University of North Georgia, says she was wrongly accused of cheating.

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    7 months ago

    this is ridiculous. spell and grammar check tools != AI content generators or plagiarism.

    edid: apparently grammarly has changed a lot since i last used it.

    • abhibeckert@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Grammarly is a lot more than a spell checker. Here are some screenshots from their marketing page that specifically recommends using their product as a student.

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        7 months ago

        But you still need to put the content in there. All it does is do the boring formatting stuff. The real crime is not teaching students latex.

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          7 months ago

          Ehhh…

          They integrated GPT last year. It’s entirely possible to use Grammarly in a way that raises academic integrity concerns nowadays.

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            Thats still a bullshit vague intro. Like you still need to feed it what you are introducing and ideally how you want to get there. Again. This depends if this is an English writing class or anything else. Cause the point of the essay is to convey the point, knowing you need an intro is the key point, writing something to get into your meat is 40% of the boring bullshit you need to write in a report, the other 40% is the conclusion and formatting. Using AI to streamline that is not cheating unless its an English writing class. these are tools you use to convey your point better. You need a point to begin with.

            This is like saying calculators are gonna make math homework easier. Make better homework!

            and its not like these AI detection tools arent snakeoil either.

            • GiveMemes@jlai.lu
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              A calculator (in most cases) can’t just do a problem for you, and when it can those calculators are banned (the reason you can’t use ti84s on gen chem exams in college, or and 89x in a calc 1 class). Such a tool means that you really don’t have to understand to to get the answer. To me your comment reads that if I get the answer to a problem by typing it into wolfram alpha it’s the same as working through the problem on your own, as long as you understand how WA got there. I wholeheartedly disagree that somebody that is using wolfram alpha to get all of their answers actually knows jack shit about math, kinda like how anybody using generative AI for writing doesn’t have to know jack shit about the subject and just give a semi-specific prompt based on a small amount of prior research. It’s very easy for me to type into a GPT bot "write a paper on the social and political factors that led to the haitian revolution. It’s a completely different experience to sift through documents and actually learn what happened then write about that. I’m fairly confident I could “write” a solid paper using AI without doing almost any research if it’s a topic I know literally anything about. Eg: I don’t know very much about the physics of cars but I can definitely get generative AI to give you a decent paper on how and why increases in engine size can lead to an increase in efficiency just by knowing that fact to be true and proofreading the mess the AI throws together for me. The fact that you consider these tools the same as a calculator (which I might add that we still often restrict the use of, eg. no wolfram alpha on your multivariable final) is astounding to me tbh.