• ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It will end up like every other Russian knock-off: made by the Chinese when Russia eventually gives up

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      2 months ago

      Nah, it goes WAY back to pre-WW2. Russia basically made copying everyone else’s technology a major economic driver for them for decades, and it was all based around trying to sucker poorer countries into buying their awful products.

      Cameras, radios, cars, weapons. Hell they even stole NASA Space Shuttle designs and tech to build their own, which just ended up in a junkyard.

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        2 months ago

        And the Buran system was more impressive than the shuttle, capable of completely automated flight!

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            2 months ago

            I don’t think it was ever confirmed. They only flew the thing once, which was confirmed. Anything else claiming superior tech I’d call USSR propaganda.

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            2 months ago

            I’m not sure whether the orbital flight counts as test or operational, but that one. The prior test flights only had automated landings.

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          2 months ago

          So they say but since it never even went into space it’s a bold claim.

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            2 months ago

            I’m reading that it orbited at an altitude of up to 263 km, well above the Karman line. Is that not space?

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              2 months ago

              Well that’s debatable but really the point is it never did a re-entry so we really don’t know how reusable it would have been.

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                2 months ago

                If it didn’t do a reentry, how did it get down from that altitude?

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                  2 months ago

                  By landing?

                  Reentry doesn’t mean flying downwards it means actually coming in at a high enough speed to generate heating. Otherwise it’s just falling.

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                    2 months ago

                    I’m pretty sure any reentry from orbit is going to involve high enough speeds to generate heating.

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            2 months ago

            It’s just like their foxbat claims…turned out it was a flying brick.

            Edit: apparently I pissed off some tankies lol

            It’s well known that the foxbat was heavily exaggerated in its capabilities. It’s how we ended up with the f15 and it’s insane capabilities. Just like now russia fighting in Ukraine, paper tiger.

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      2 months ago

      Of course everything’s made by China anyway including all the high-end stuff. The exception being computer chips.