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We are excited to announce that Arch Linux is entering into a direct collaboration with Valve. Valve is generously providing backing for two critical projects that will have a huge impact on our distribution: a build service infrastructure and a secure signing enclave. By supporting work on a freelance basis for these topics, Valve enables us to work on them without being limited solely by the free time of our volunteers.

This opportunity allows us to address some of the biggest outstanding challenges we have been facing for a while. The collaboration will speed-up the progress that would otherwise take much longer for us to achieve, and will ultimately unblock us from finally pursuing some of our planned endeavors. We are incredibly grateful for Valve to make this possible and for their explicit commitment to help and support Arch Linux.

These projects will follow our usual development and consensus-building workflows. [RFCs] will be created for any wide-ranging changes. Discussions on this mailing list as well as issue, milestone and epic planning in our GitLab will provide transparency and insight into the work. We believe this collaboration will greatly benefit Arch Linux, and are looking forward to share further development on this mailing list as work progresses.

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
    28·
    2 months ago

    Ultimately, yes, everything they do is entirely for their own benefit. But, they’re also free to focus on their long-term growth and returns. As long as the leadership doesn’t get changed to a bunch of shit-for-brains golden parachute MBAs, they’re going to want to keep their customers happy. It’s good for them, and it’s not terrible for us. Everybody wins

    No, they don’t. Literally every single gamer across the world pays 15% more on every single game purchase, for literally no reason except to make the 1% at Valve even richer.

    And they don’t have to hire MBAs because gamers dick ride them like Gabe isnt a self serving billionaire and keep forking over an extra 15% and then thanking them for the opportunity to do so.

    • pivot_root@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      2 months ago

      No, they don’t. Literally every single gamer across the world pays 15% more on every single game purchase, for literally no reason except to make the 1% at Valve even richer.

      Do you seriously believe that if a developer pays 15% less in platform fees to Valve, that savings will be passed on to us? Epic Games tried that. Guess what: games still cost us the same there as every other platform.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
        15·
        2 months ago

        It literally either goes back to the consumer or back to the game developer.

        • pivot_root@lemmy.worldEnglish
          61·
          2 months ago

          Or, more likely, the publisher. But, that’s beside the point.

          As it has been demonstrated when Epic tried the “developers pay less fees here” approach, the average Joe Gamer doesn’t benefit in any way whatsoever. Your premise of the savings being passed down doesn’t exactly pan out.

          • Aatube@kbin.melroy.orgOP
            3·
            2 months ago

            To be fair, Epic Store was marred by exclusives and having way less features back then. Even now, their (Electron) launcher boots up way slower than (CEF) Steam, and their sales are way worse.

            • pivot_root@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              2 months ago

              Is it Electron? Someone elsewhere mentioned it was actually an instance of Unreal Engine running for the webview component. Something about the EGS install directory containing the same UE settings file that games use for initializing Unreal

              • Aatube@kbin.melroy.orgOP
                3·
                2 months ago

                IDK then. spinning up an entire game engine just to do what Electron does seems unbelievably wasteful though.

                • pivot_root@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  3·
                  2 months ago

                  I just downloaded and installed EGS to a Windows VM.

                  strings EpicGamesLauncher.exe | select-string "unreal" returns some interesting results:

                  • FCommunityPortalManagerImpl::SetUnrealEnginePortalViewModel
                  • {USER}Unreal Engine/Engine/Config/User{TYPE}.ini
                  • UnrealHeaderTool
                  • Cannot call UnrealScript (%s - %s) while stopped at a breakpoint.
                  • UnrealVersionSelector
                  • Created with FUnrealEngineFileAssociationServiceFactory at D:/build/++Portal/Sync/Portal/Source/Programs/EpicGamesLauncher/Layers/Domain/Private/UserDomain.cpp:866

                  A search for “electron” only matches the words “Electronic Arts”

          • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
            24·
            2 months ago

            As it has been demonstrated when Epic tried the “developers pay less fees here” approach, the average Joe Gamer doesn’t benefit in any way whatsoever. Your premise of the savings being passed down doesn’t exactly pan out.

            Oh really? Please do point me to the study you did where you gave 15% more revenue back to developers and then assessed their output quality.

            Claiming that having the store take 15% less cut of revenue will have no effect is a quite frankly flat out absurd claim to make.