The products covered by the obligation to repair currently include:

  • washing machines and washer-dryers
  • dishwashers
  • refrigerators
  • electronic displays
  • welding equipment
  • servers and data storage products
  • mobile phones, cordless phones and tablets
  • tumble dryers
  • e-bikes and e-scooters batteries (from 18 February 2027)
  • local space heaters
  • dan1101@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Hopefully this will benefit other countries indirectly, instead of designing one repairable phone and one not repairable, should be easier to just design one.

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      2 months ago

      “Hold my beer” - Nintendo, releasing an EU centric revision. Meanwhile Apple and Samsung are digging up every legal loophole to prevent the law applying to their devices.

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        2 months ago

        Apple and Samsung be like: “It’s not a mobile phone or a tablet, it’s a phablet so it does not fall in to any category of the devices that need to be repairable.”

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          The loophole in the directive is smaller phones. Smartphones go from 10.16 cm (4 inches) diagonal to 17. 78cm (7 inches) and everything bigger (up to 44.2 cm) is a tablet.

          Samsung and Apple’s flagship smartphones are very close to be considered tablets but that wouldn’t save them from the requirements.

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        iPhones are already super easy to repair. Apple have been at the forefront of this for years.

        For the downvoters who are too blinded by their hate for Apple to believe facts:

        https://www.ifixit.com/repairability/smartphone-repairability-scores

        PROS
        • Display and battery repairs are well-prioritized, though not as well as in other (dual-entry) iPhone models.
        • Torx screws secure the battery assembly in place, making replacements straightforward.
        • Repair parts and instructions are available straight from Apple.
        CONS
        • Five different screwhead types and the continued reliance on adhesives complicate basic repairs.
        • blargh513@sh.itjust.works
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          Are we talking about the same apple that invented a new type of screw to keep people from taking their phones apart? The same apple that once people could get a trilobe driver, then made it so that generic replacement screens would not work because of some protection from non-apple hardware? Then went on to make sure that you can’t use non-apple parts in a laptop?

          • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            Yes.

            https://www.ifixit.com/repairability/smartphone-repairability-scores

            PROS
            • Display and battery repairs are well-prioritized, though not as well as in other (dual-entry) iPhone models.
            • Torx screws secure the battery assembly in place, making replacements straightforward.
            • Repair parts and instructions are available straight from Apple.
            CONS
            • Five different screwhead types and the continued reliance on adhesives complicate basic repairs.
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            2 months ago

            Same Apple. Signing new parts to your device is incredibly simple and DIY now.

            https://www.ifixit.com/repairability/smartphone-repairability-scores

            PROS
            • Display and battery repairs are well-prioritized, though not as well as in other (dual-entry) iPhone models.
            • Torx screws secure the battery assembly in place, making replacements straightforward.
            • Repair parts and instructions are available straight from Apple.
            CONS
            • Five different screwhead types and the continued reliance on adhesives complicate basic repairs.
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                I wouldn’t want to be putting second hand parts in my phone when repairing it. I can’t imagine there are many second hand screens or batteries around for sale given they’re the things that are replaced the most.

                Not that I’d ever want a second hand screen or battery anyway.

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            At home with minimal tool requirements

            https://www.ifixit.com/repairability/smartphone-repairability-scores

            PROS
            • Display and battery repairs are well-prioritized, though not as well as in other (dual-entry) iPhone models.
            • Torx screws secure the battery assembly in place, making replacements straightforward.
            • Repair parts and instructions are available straight from Apple.
            CONS
            • Five different screwhead types and the continued reliance on adhesives complicate basic repairs.

            Company that rates self repairability of phones: iPhones are easy to repair by yourself using basic tools

            Lemmy: no, that can’t be true because we hate apple

            • testaccount372920@piefed.zip
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              Not bad by the standards of modern phones, but hopefully not good enough for the new EU standards. Imo adhesives should only be used if they’re replaceable or reusable and the screws should be limited to philips and flatheads.

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          I have to admit that I haven’t checked ifix scores for a hot minute and am surprised that since the iphone 15 Apple consistently beats all other big brands in reparability score. Before that of course they were bad, which is probably why people remember them that way. I like that trend, hopefully Samsung and Google also hop on that bandwaggon any time soon.

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            Strange that 73 other people, 30+ of who downvoted long after I added the proof, think that ifixit are wrong.

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              I don’t think they have a problem with the ifixit scores, more with the words you have chosen to convey your message. Also of course you will not find any love for Big Tech in the Fediverse ;-)

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      The past two phones I bought were not because they broke, but because they stopped being supported on apps that I need to use.

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            Source?

            As far as I know, nearly all flagship phones, Apple or otherwise, get about 7 years of update support (except Pixel phones with GrapheneOS which get 14 ignore; I remembered this incorrectly).

            The difference is, even my old phone running Android 8 (a 9yo OS) can still browse the web, run all apps, and perform fine as a phone. An even older phone running Android 4.4 can still run 3rd party apps. iPhones seem to stop working about a year after they stop receiving updates, and they don’t support sideloading (also know as running the software you want to run on the device you own).

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                Oh trust me, I’m no fan of Samsung, but I tend to value control of my devices over…whatever it is Apple does. I had an iPhone until I discovered replacing the home button myself artificially bricked the device due to DRM forcing customers to go to an Apple store for repairs. Never again

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                  Control over your devices is on the way out regardless of the major manufacturer.

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                    Unfortunately, this is very true.

                    For what it’s worth, I still try to maintain as much control as possible by using OSes like Graphene or Linux. I also have just started refusing to pay for things I can’t own. That includes gaming consoles, cloud services, smart home devices, Samsung/Apple phones, leased cars, etc. If Google keeps killing and locking down AOSP, it may soon include all Android phones too.

                    I’m hoping we can get some regulations pushed through before that point.