This relies on the misunderstanding that fascism is a movement let by individuals due to their ideals that can be prevented by other individuals with other ideals. In reality fascism is the reaction of one part of the ruling class to the falling rate of profit in which it pits one section of the working class against another in order to create a cheaper and more exploitable labor pool. Voting for the “not fascist” party doesn’t solve this because the rate of profit will continue to fall and some section of the ruling class will always recognize that there is no other solution to that problem that does not remove them from power.
Voting in a way that leads to the Conservatives getting a majority government leads to fascism. Due to the combination of a party system and first past the post voting, unless you can convince Liberal and NDP voters to all vote Green, voting for them likely means that the party competing against the Conservatives in your riding won’t get your vote, which means the vote has virtually no impact.
That does depend on your riding though; in ridings where there’s no chance of Conservatives winning, sure, vote Green.
And then there’s ridings like mine where the Conservatives are almost guaranteed to win and Greens aren’t even running a candidate. I’d run myself, but at this point I’d rather take the slim chance that the Liberals can finally unseat the Conservative candidate who’s been our MP for over a decade.
Greens have a great platform. And that means that everyone with money and power is going to do all they can to keep them from winning seats.
Actually, I was disagreeing with it in a thoughtful manner instead of just discounting you or your argument altogether.
I used to vote by your logic. Then I changed strategy when I saw how the system was set up to favour bad and worse.
So now I locally push for proportional representation and encourage people to support the Green party, while also voting “strategically” where that term means voting for the least bad candidate who has a chance of winning at the Federal level.
At the municipal and provincial level? I vote Green or whatever the nearest option is.
You receive:
A fascist government
Loss of sovereignty
'Cause the Greens aren’t going to win, but they will make it easier for the Conservatives to win.
This relies on the misunderstanding that fascism is a movement let by individuals due to their ideals that can be prevented by other individuals with other ideals. In reality fascism is the reaction of one part of the ruling class to the falling rate of profit in which it pits one section of the working class against another in order to create a cheaper and more exploitable labor pool. Voting for the “not fascist” party doesn’t solve this because the rate of profit will continue to fall and some section of the ruling class will always recognize that there is no other solution to that problem that does not remove them from power.
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Is anything they said false? Does this comment help anything? Do you feel better for having made it?
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Voting in a way that leads to the Conservatives getting a majority government leads to fascism. Due to the combination of a party system and first past the post voting, unless you can convince Liberal and NDP voters to all vote Green, voting for them likely means that the party competing against the Conservatives in your riding won’t get your vote, which means the vote has virtually no impact.
That does depend on your riding though; in ridings where there’s no chance of Conservatives winning, sure, vote Green.
And then there’s ridings like mine where the Conservatives are almost guaranteed to win and Greens aren’t even running a candidate. I’d run myself, but at this point I’d rather take the slim chance that the Liberals can finally unseat the Conservative candidate who’s been our MP for over a decade.
Greens have a great platform. And that means that everyone with money and power is going to do all they can to keep them from winning seats.
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Actually, I was disagreeing with it in a thoughtful manner instead of just discounting you or your argument altogether.
I used to vote by your logic. Then I changed strategy when I saw how the system was set up to favour bad and worse.
So now I locally push for proportional representation and encourage people to support the Green party, while also voting “strategically” where that term means voting for the least bad candidate who has a chance of winning at the Federal level.
At the municipal and provincial level? I vote Green or whatever the nearest option is.
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