• cmbabul@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I swear to god how are all these tech billionaires that grew up as nerds not seeing what they are doing

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      4 months ago

      They know exactly what they are doing. They are all desperate to be in charge of our new AI powered overlords.

      AI doesn’t benefit anyone on this planet whatsoever except wealthy people at the end of the day. It only serves to oppress the majority of the populace otherwise, one way or another.

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    4 months ago

    I wish that even one of them invested into something that would actually help the society instead

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      4 months ago

      Why do you think human like robots can not help humanity? Do you think people always must do the menial work?

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        4 months ago

        Replacing human labor with humanoid machines will enrich the wealthy owners and nothing more.

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          4 months ago

          The solution should be to fix our system which is designed to enrich the wealthy. We should fix this and have the machines/AI and automation to benefit everyone.

          I feel like your solution is to not do the cool new innovative thing that has the potential to help everyone, and so let’s just stay in this capitalist hellscape as is? At least if massive robot automation displaces tons of jobs, then the Working class might be forced to come together and fight back, maybe?

          Your mindset is just to keep everything the way it currently is, which I think sucks.

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            4 months ago

            Genuine question how would we “fix” our society by removing those jobs and keep same or more people. What jobs would they do. Having robots do Amazon workhouse jobs would displace thousands of people who work that for a job where would they go. They can’t just become software developers or medical workers etc. The way I see it is we just need more jobs in general so removing some is a total negative unless we have somewhere for them to go.

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              4 months ago

              I dont have a solution, that’s why I’m cynical. It is perfectly OK to say “I don’t know”.

              That being said, you’re way of thinking is very myopic and only fits our current society standard / zeitgeist.

              Why do people need to do these menial jobs at all? You’re answer is probably that they won’t have money to pay for food, rent, etc. What if we had a society where people could pursue hobbies, interests, passions, etc, without fear of homelessness and starvation? Why can’t we reach for something much better than what we have now?

              Some people would exploit such a system and never contribute to society and just sit around playing video games all day? So what, who gives a shit?

              Just because this would be extremely difficult, and we have absolutely no idea how to do it, doesn’t mean we should just give up and not try. The current system sucks ass. People shouldn’t be wasting there time doing menial pointless labor to keep the wealthy rich, just to survive a pointless existence.

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            4 months ago

            Your mindset is just to keep everything the way it currently is, which I think sucks.

            No, it isn’t. Don’t put words in my mouth. This is impossible anyway, things can’t ever be kept the way they are.

            The solution should be to fix our system which is designed to enrich the wealthy.

            I agree with this completely. It needs to be done first, not second and not during.

            I feel like your solution is to not do the cool new innovative thing that has the potential to help everyone

            That’s the point, it doesn’t have the potential to help everyone until after the socioeconomic issues are resolved. We, the working class, should not be cheering for any of this until it has the potential to benefit and not harm us.

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              4 months ago

              Ok fair enough.

              My only last point would be that what if the socioeconomic changes we want could be resolved because of the technical/automation advancements? What if it’s the only way to get the change we want? I’d see great hardship as a transition most probably.

              I’m obviously just speculating here. I’m very very cynical about solving the socioeconomic issues first, I just don’t see it happening, enstead we just stay business as usual. At least with a huge shift in automation causing massive job loss there is the potential for a big revolutionary change. No guarantee obviously, it could also only make things worse. We really don’t know.

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                4 months ago

                I’d see great hardship as a transition most probably […] massive job loss […] big revolutionary change

                What do you think a situation like this would look like, in practice? I’m curious because I see people suggest that some kind of revolution would be a good thing… but what you’re talking about is a lot of suffering and death leading up to the revolution, followed by violence and more death during, followed by more hardship and death trying to pick up the pieces after… do you expect to not be part of the suffering and death? do you expect it to happen after your life? what about family?

                Frankly I think this kind of fatalism is a lazy cop-out. Saying “things are bad and getting worse, and there’s nothing I can do about it, so let’s just wait for it to all fall apart” excuses you from making an effort to improve things now. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, and collectively we make our own hell through inaction and the belief that collapse is inevitable.

                We can demand more from our governments. By organizing, we can overwhelm the intentions of the wealthy. We can do better now.