You Don’t Need to Use Airplane Mode on Airplanes | Airplane mode hasn’t been necessary for nearly 20 years, but the myth persists.::Airplane mode hasn’t been necessary for nearly 20 years, but the myth persists.
You should still set airplane mode when airborne for other reasons besides interference with the aircraft. For one, you’ll save your battery. It takes a lot of “juice” for your device to search for cell towers that are likely out of reach. You may also want to avoid connecting to a tower outside where you have coverage. E.g. for a flight from Anchorage to Minneapolis, maybe you don’t want to connect to Canadian cell towers and potentially receive charges in another country. Obviously this depends on your plan limits. But, yeah, it’s not really about protecting the airplane, in most cases
Here is a video from TED-Ed that explains why. TLDR: phones looking for a signal broadcast on high power, but planes move so fast that you can end up right next to a cell tower so the high power signal can interfere with other phones trying to communicate.
I disagree with how he phrases a few things, but I think it’s mostly accurate.
If airplane mode really mattered they wouldn’t let you even have a device
The idea that plane safety is tied to everyone together agreeing to and remembering to push a button on their devices is absolutely insane. You think that the regulating bodies that require multiple backups for every possible system also just trust that every passenger pushes a button and every flight attendant actually checks every passengers devices?
No I don’t think that. What words in my comment make you think I think that
I think they were agreeing and meant “You” rhetorically.
That’s asinine. It’s like saying “If brakes really mattered, a cop would check your brakes before letting you drive to work in the morning”. Brakes are pretty damn important, but very few places (in the US at least) have any mechanism for ensuring yours are in working order even periodically.
Proper risk mitigation takes into account (at minimum) the likelihood of an event occuring, the severity of the event occurring, your willingness to tolerate a failure, and the cost associated with implementing corrections.
Airlines have an EXTREMELY low tolerance for any kind of risk that could conceivably lead to a catastrophic failure, so the fact that you’re allowed to have a device, despite potential safety concerns, comes from a combination of a few factors:
- The chances of some kind of major interference with flight ops happening are demonstrably pretty low
- People would likely push back quite hard on not being able to use electronic devices for entertainment on a flight.
- Most people comply with the request.
- Related to 3, there is little reason for airlines to change the rule, since cell operation is next to impossible in flight anyways, and wifi/bluetooth are not in the frequency range of concern.
Right, with that extremely low tolerance would come an extremely high bar of security.
For example, you can’t have lithium in the cargo, and can’t have compressed gas or knives in the cabin. And what do we see? They prohibit and screen for those things (to the best of their ability).
They wouldn’t let you have a knife if you promised to keep it in your pocket and not use it.
Therefore it is clear that, as the article states, airplane mode is not a significant factor for flight safety. Because if it were, they would lock up phones or have implemented a jammer or some other such adjustment
Absolutely still turn it on though, or your phone will be pushing it’s power to the max screaming for cell towers the whole flight.
But sure if you want to pop it on when you get close to landing, you can usually get a signal that low.
Not if there is a picocell on board - that’s one of the major points of the article, including the EU mandating their installing on flights in Europe to enable people to connect.
However I agree with the airlines that lobbied in the US against this. It’s going to be a source of air rage - people crammed in a small space do not want to listen to other people yapping loudly on cell phones or video calls. It’s simpler to just ban it outright. Although I am sure the airlines also don’t want to have to pay for data connections and their air staff be responsible for dealing with irate customers when the connection is out.
But airlines have already started monetising things by making WiFi available on board flights for a fee - that is already opening the door to calls. I suspect we’ll end up with it as standard and a fight against exorbitant charges for connecting imposed by airlines.
You’ll have 4G and possibly 5G throughout the whole flight inside Norway. It’s not uncommon to see people browsing Netflix on their flight.
Interesting, I’ve never gotten any signal after the first 15 minutes or so inside the US.
Does the US have decent coverage? Over 85% of the land area in Norway is covered, 99,9% if we go by where people live, so you’ll have coverage even deep into fjords or mountains up here.
There are huge swaths of the US not covered. You could be driving between two cities less than an hour apart and hit dead zones.
Last flight I was on had a no electronics at all rule
A person was told they couldn’t have their kindle out during the flight
fucking hell, I’d think about leaving because having to survive the rabid child always behind me, that guy over there coughing the entire flight, that lady next to me who immediately started snoring, and the bi hourly “buy our perfume” plane wide adnnouncements would be hell without headphones
the rabid child always behind me,
The one kicking the seat got to me on my last flight.
The plan was to inform the parent I used to be infantry and I was gonna start teaching his kid some new words if his kid didnt respect the airplane. But he clued in just in time.
Name and shame the airline.
I fly a lot for work, internationally most of the time. Haven’t seen this in many years.
Air Canada - pre-covid though so that might be your many years
I flew many times with different airlines before that without this issue
I remember once when I accidentally turned on my phone during a flight instantly the plane started to plummet out of the sky. The phone slipped out of my hands and I groped for it while people and service items flailed around the cabin as the plane tumbled. Finally I slipped out of my belt and grabbed it. With only 10,000 feet of altitude to spare, I finally managed to get the phone to go into shutdown mode by holding the power button down. The plane righted itself immediately, and I slipped the phone into my pocket quietly and kept a low profile for the rest of the flight.
I was sitting across the aisle from you and saw the whole thing unfold. To be honest, no harm no foul so you’re all good, however I’m just thankful those were the 3G days because with 5G airwaves I’m sure it would have been a faster drop.
The problem with the 5G phones is that they effect the thought waves of the pilots and put them into a deep dive trance. I can’t blame them for wearing those tinfoil hats. Modern aviation is not what they taught in flight school.
I use it ho properly disconnect from mobile network, if something not working with it on iPhone, disabling and enable mobile network did not do the trick, don’t know exactly why.
I use it ho properly disconnect from mobile network, if something not working with it on iPhone, disabling and enable mobile network did not do the trick, don’t know exactly why.
Because the cellular tower icon disables mobile data, but not the radios. You can tell because when you turn it off you’ll still see bars (if, you know, the radio is working).
Airplane mode on iOS disables cellular radios, but leaves WiFi and Bluetooth on. Your phone will sit there blazing (figuratively) as bright as the sun in its cellular radio spectrums trying to hit a tower when you’re 35,000 feet up, eating up your battery and potentially fucking with cell towers as you fly overhead, where WiFi and Bluetooth won’t. It also prevents potential interference from the 2G radio with the ILS the plane uses for landing (as I saw elsewhere from a pilot).
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Imagine the number of plane crashes if this wasn’t the case.
I have to assume 90% of people on board don’t put it in airplane mode anyway.
That’s my philosophy as an engineer. Create policies/rules assuming dumb people will ignore it. Anything critical should not be something the average person can even touch.
So you’re saying my genitals are critical? Why, thank you!
That’s right my king/queen. Don’t let them touch your goods without earning it.
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